Gathering Of Circles
2008
Updated 07/16/2008

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BEAR HEART VISION QUEST
There has been a great deal of interest in a Vision Quest for Fall 2008, so we have scheduled one for September, and also have scheduled them for the Spring and Fall of 2009 on the following dates:

 September 3-7, 2008
June 3-7, 2009
September 9-13, 2009



Cloudcroft, New Mexico

There is never a charge for ceremony !!
(According to your life style, no one will be turned away for monetary reasons)

Bear Heart's web site: www.BearHeart.info

Quester Information   -    Supporter Information   - RSVP Here - Directions 
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*** Special: Order your Bear Heart Vision Quest T-shirt now   

This information is for the men and women who will be participating as Questers and Supporters for the Vision Quest that will take place in the mountains near Cloudcroft, New Mexico.  Mike Eagle Eye Andrews will be the Sponsor and Leader of this Vision Quest in Bear Heart's tradition.

The limit for the number of Questers is 12. There will be a four-door Going-Out Sweat before the Questers go out, a Sweat for the Supporters during the Quest, and a one-door Sweat for the Questers after all Questers have returned.

Marcellus Bear Heart Williams will not attend this Vision  Quest, but in any event he will be praying for all attendees during the Vision Quest. 

Click to enlargeMike Eagle Eye Andrews was authorized to sponsor and lead Vision Quests in Bear Heart's tradition in a ceremony in September 2004. Bear Heart trained Eagle Eye at the September 2004, the May 2005, and the October 2005 Vision Quests when he assisted Bear Heart. Mike was the Sponsor and Leader of six subsequent Vision Quests. At the 2008 and 2009 Vision Quests, Eagle Eye will be sending people out on their Vision Quest, helping them understand their visions, and giving them a Vision Quest name.

He has known Bear Heart since 1996 as a friend, mentor, and teacher. Mike has a B.S. and an M.S. in Chemical Engineering from New Mexico State University and spent 23 years in the corporate world. He then obtained his certificate to teach secondary science and taught at a reservation west of Albuquerque for two years. He lives in the mountains near Taos.

Eagle Eye can be contacted at:
Mike Eagle Eye Andrews
P.O. Box 577
Arroyo Seco, NM 87514
e-mail: 7laughs@newmex.com 
(505) 776-0001 (H)
(505) 770-4321 (C)

The brochure can be downloaded here: brochure 
 

DONATIONS With the rising cost of gasoline and the resulting transportation costs, the suggested donations for Questers will be increased to $400 and $200 for Supporters. We are asking Questers to make a $100 deposit due at registration (non-refundable, but it can be applied to any future Bear Heart Vision Quest if you have to cancel), and the balance due 30 days before the start of the Vision Quest. As in the past, no one will be turned away for financial reasons if they can't afford the suggested donation.   You may contribute more or less.  Each of you should listen to your own heart and consider your own financial circumstance as well as the work that Eagle Eye performs for you while you are “on the hill.”  Men and women Supporting the Quest but not actually fasting will participate in prayer and ceremony with Eagle Eye and help maintain the vigil for the Questers.  The suggested donation from the supporters is $200 per person. You may work out a payment plan with Eagle Eye if desired. No one will be turned away for monetary reasons. The donations are used to purchase food since meals are provided, rental of a port-a-potty, and purchase of a cord of firewood.

If you are planning to attend, please send a check for $100 (this is your confirmation to reserve your spot) made out to Mike Andrews along with a letter of intent for your Vision Quest, any special medical issues, and a package of tobacco  to the address listed above. This confirmation must be received at the time of your registration. The balance of your donation is due 30 days before the start of the Vision Quest. A check for $200 from each Supporter must be received 10 days before the start of the Vision Quest.

You also may send your letter of intent or negotiate a payment plan with Eagle Eye at 7laughs@newmex.com

Please e-mail or phone Cliff Buchanan at Cliff@ISISoftware.net (432) 550-3302 so that you can be added to the proper category of either Quester or Supporter. Remember we have a limit of 12 Questers. There is no limit on the number of Supporters.


The following is adapted from Bear Heart’s notes on Vision Questing
 

VISION QUESTING

Why you might consider a Vision Quest:

If you feel that you are at a crossroads in your life or if you have questions about the intent and purpose for your life then you may benefit from a Vision Quest.  What is my life purpose?  What is my gift?  How can I manifest my special talents?  What are my special talents? What am I supposed to be bringing to the world to make it better?  These are some questions that a Vision Quest can help answer.

How to prepare:

Your Vision Quest begins once you have made a commitment to Quest. It is suggested that you take some time each day to reflect on your purpose for Questing.  You may keep a journal during this time to record any insights you may have.  Think about what you want in life: How can I best serve?  What is the path?  What role will I play?  What am I here to fulfill?  Have I felt it?  Have I sensed it?  If not, these are things to strive for. 

How to prepare physically:

Continue with your regular exercise program.
Set aside regular periods for meditation and reflecting on the purpose of your Quest. Learn to eat lightly.  Eat until you are almost full and then leave the table.
The month before your Quest attempt to eliminate meat, dairy and all animal products from your diet. Gradually over the month eliminate caffeine and tobacco. This will decrease cravings and the side effects of caffeine and nicotine withdrawal during your Quest. The week before the Quest attempt to eliminate sugar and sweets from your diet. Attempt to drink at least eight glasses of water daily as this will help remove toxins from your body.

WHAT TO BRING

VISION QUEST -- Questers

  • A Sacred Pipe or a prayer staff/ power stick. (You may make this from a one or two-foot long stick with objects that have meaning to you.)

  • A red altar cloth (4 ft X 6 in) with a hawk or eagle feather attached to it with an abalone shell that has two holes in it (quill of feather up).

  • A tobacco offering for the Sponsor and your Supporter.

  • A tarp, ropes, and tent stakes to make a lean-to for inclement weather, but it is important that you be open to the sky day and night as much as possible. No tents will be allowed inside the Quester's circle, but they may be used in camp before going out on the Vision Quest and after returning from the Vision Quest.

  • Comfortable clothes for the Quest itself.  Layered clothing with cold and rain protection (such as a Gore-Tex parka and rain pants or a poncho) is best because we will be in the mountains and the weather can be warm and mild or snowing, raining and freezing even in May or September. You will be sitting down, so you might need more insulation and you will not have food as fuel to heat you. Wool or synthetics are better than cotton. We recommend you have one or two more layers than you think you will need. A hat with a wide brim is advised for the NM sun and a stocking cap for warmth or use as a night cap.

  • A sleeping bag (warm, preferably with a synthetic fill instead of down in case it gets wet) and ground pad (it is nice to have a pad that also can be used to sit on when it is rolled up).

  • A blanket or pad to sit on.

  • A flashlight with an extra set of batteries.

  • Glasses and sunglasses.

  • Insect repellent since there may be some flies and mosquitoes if the days are warm.

  • Sunscreen with an SPF of at least 30 since we will be at an elevation of 9,200 feet.

  • Any required medications and other frequently used personal items, such as aspirin, eye drops, and chap stick.

  • Some sage to bless and smudge your Vision Quest circle.

  • Any sacred objects you want to have with you (can be meditation aids, fetishes, or anything that will be blessed by being there with you and that will remind you of your Vision Quest after you get back home).

  • A drum is optional.

  • A trowel to dig a latrine away from your circle, toilet paper, and wet-wipes.

  • A note-pad and pen to record your experiences, visions, and reflections.

  • Something to carry everything in when you go to your selected Vision Quest site, such as a backpack or duffel bag. 

FOR THE SWEAT LODGES BEFORE AND AFTER THE VISION QUEST

Two complete sets of sweat lodge clothing (gym shorts, bathing suit, towels, etc) for two Sweat Lodges: a Going-Out Lodge and a Lodge at the end after all Questers have returned.

    Tobacco offerings for the Sponsor and the fire tender.

    Rest of donation for the Sponsor if you haven't already sent it before the start of the Vision Quest (give it to him before the Going-Out Lodge).

    For the nights you aren't actually "on the hill" Questing, you should bring camping gear and clean clothes. If you get your vision the first day then you be in camp for the remaining three days since all Questers and Supporters must stay in camp until the last Quester has returned and they have completed the final Sweat Lodge. You will be asked to commit to how many nights you will be out as you are leaving the Going-Out Sweat Lodge.

FOR CAMP BEFORE YOU GO OUT ON YOUR VISION QUEST AND AFTER YOU RETURN - QUESTERS AND SUPPORTERS

    A Give-away item. This is an object, keepsake or possession of yours that may or may not have some intrinsic value that has some special meaning for you.  The idea is to give away this item and any attachments you may have with it in this ceremony.  This is done as a way to let go of the past and release any attachments to it.

    A food item to share in a light feast following the Quest.

    A gift for your Supporter, where an appropriate gift might be paying for the Supporter's donation, a Pendleton wool blanket, or something comparable since the Supporter will be staying in camp praying for you and checking on you during your Vision Quest.

    Gifts for people you meet in camp during the vision Quest (if you are so moved).
     

SCHEDULE

All participants (Questers and Supporters) must arrive Wednesday afternoon before 3:00 P.M. in order to participate in the evening campfire circle discussion of Vision Questing. The organizers of this Vision Quest (Cliff Buchanan and Mike Andrews) will arrive at the Vision Quest site at least two days before the start of the Vision Quest to set up camp and build the sweat lodge and all Questers and Supporters are encouraged to arrive early and participate in these activities. We will try to finish by Noon on Sunday.

QUESTIONS

If you have any questions, please contact us:

Mike Andrews - PO Box 577, Arroyo Seco NM 87514 - 7laughs@newmex.com  
H (505) 776-0001 - C (505) 770-4321
Cliff Buchanan - 1404 Castle Road, Odessa TX 79762 - Cliff@isisoftware.net (432) 550-3302

Directions: 

Drive to Cloudcroft, New Mexico (The nearest airport is in El Paso, TX, but some may prefer to fly to Albuquerque, NM and drive from there). Take Hwy 130 South out of Cloudcroft for 1.2 miles. Turn left at Sleepy Grass Campground or 0.7 miles. Turn right on Forest Road 5661 for 3.9 miles. Turn left before forked tree on left before turn. Then turn left again immediately (about 40 feet) and follow road. Signs will be posted.

 

Sponsor:
Mike Andrews - Arroyo Seco NM 7laughs@newmex.com H (505) 776-0001 - C (505) 770-4321

 

 

QUESTING AT THE VISION QUEST

Comments from Cliff and Mike:

You will select your spot before the Going-Out Sweat Lodge. Use your prayer staff or a stick (if you are a Pipe Carrier) to scratch a circle in the earth of your perimeter and stay inside your circle until you have your vision; or until the last day around noon; or until you decide its time to come back. There will be a Sweat Lodge before you go out and again when all Questers have returned. Supporters will be awake all the time you are out and take turns "keeping the fire". The task is to be by yourself during the Quest in order to get to know yourself. The Supporters will "check" on you from time to time. The elements are the easy part. Being without TV, phones, and conversation may be the hard part.

You also might want to read (or re-read) the next-to-the-last chapter of Bear Heart's book, "The Wind Is My Mother", since it covers the Vision Quest. It also provides some assurances on the way Eagle Eye and Bear Heart  works to protect you while you are out on your Vision Quest. By fasting and going without water (and possibly without sleep if you so choose), you are stressing your body so that the normal mental responses are short-circuited and you are more open to a vision. In Bear Heart's tradition, you will be asked to go without food and water, unless you have special medical requirements, which should be discussed individually with Eagle Eye before the Vision Quest. The Vision Quest is a VERY powerful experience and one that you will remember for a long time.

You may take a tarp to get under in case it rains and to use as a sun shade. Some people might choose to go out with only a wool blanket, while others may choose to take more on the mountain.

You will also get instruction directly from the sponsor immediately before going out.


SUPPORTING AT THE VISION QUEST

What does it mean to "Support" at the Vision Quest? Some  people attending the Vision Quest as Supporters may have been Supporters in past Vision Quests, and some may have been past Questers on a Vision Quest, so they all have a pretty good idea of what it means to support at a Vision Quest.  For those that have no direct experience attending a Vision Quest, this will introduce you to the responsibilities and benefits of being a Supporter at the Vision Quest.

Ideally there will be at least as many Supporters as Questers since each Quester can have a specific Supporter that places them on the Questers spot on the mountain, prays for the Quester, and can check on the Quester (without disturbing the Quester) during the time that the Quester is out on the mountain. In addition, the Supporters will help support the Sponsor and maintain the camp.

We are asking that Supporters arrive before the start of the Vision Quest and stay until after all Questers have returned and gone through the closing sweat lodge. We feel an important part of the Support process is creating a community focused on supporting the Questers and the Sponsor. It is important to close the circle with all those that opened it. We discourage attendance of the Vision Quest by drop-in visitors.

Supporting is a form of Quest in itself. Those that are Supporters will have a time for reflection and meditation like the Questers, but they will not necessarily be fasting like those that are the Questers. The Supporters can look for insights in the company of the other Supporters. In addition, you will have daily interaction with Eagle Eye and will participate in a sweat lodge for the Supporters.

The Supporters also will participate in keeping the fire burning until all the Questers have returned. This is an excellent time to meet and get to know the other Supporters. Usually the all night vigil with the fire is shared among the Supporters in shifts. The Supporters also will assist in the communal kitchen in preparing meals and in cleanup/ doing dishes.

One significant benefit to being a Supporter is that you will have first-hand experience of a Vision Quest and it may help you eliminate some of the fears you  might have about the question "Can I do a Vision Quest?" Seeing the Questers coming back from the mountain with their visions and all the benefits of their visions might encourage you to "sit on the mountain" in the future.

 


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